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RJames

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Calculation Questions
« on: February 07, 2019, 11:13:05 AM »
I'm going to try to be as simple as I can here, but I'm not sure how well that will go so please forgive me.

I am the higher subtotal parent, my wife is the lower.

Using the Equal Parenting Time Worksheet, it is based on one parent or the other paying all of the direct expenses.  If my wife pays all of the direct expenses, we use lines 12 and 13, then transfer that number to the Child Support Worksheet, which instructs us to ADD F3 and and F4 to get F6... wouldn't it be subtract F3 from F4?

When you switch it around and figure for me paying all direct expenses, using lines 14 and 15, the result is even more confusing whether you add OR subtract.  With adding as is stated, it leaves me paying my wife my f3 obligation, plus some... AND still paying all direct expenses.  If you subtract F3 from F4 then slightly less, but still seems way out of whack.

That's just the basics, but what if you are sharing direct expenses equally, the EPT doesn't allow for that?  I'm also having trouble finding information on the Shared Expenses Formula, is there a worksheet for that?

Thank you for your help!
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eFamilyTools

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Re: Calculation Questions
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2019, 12:53:55 PM »
I think what you've found is an error in the Kansas child support worksheet.  You are correct that line F.6 instructs to add lines F.3 + F.4 + F.5.  However, for shared expenses, line F.3 is not really used.  The worksheet should really use line F.3 or line F.4.  Line F.5 is just the enforcement fee and should be added.

I would direct you to our website https://efamilytools.com, but unfortunately our site is down for the next couple weeks.  However, you can access a cached copy of a direct expense article here: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3ZIRVWQx_loJ:https://efamilytools.com/blog/direct-expenses&hl=en&gl=us&strip=1&vwsrc=0

The EPT formula is only used if direct expenses are not shared.  Meaining one parent will provide them.  If you want to share, you just take the higher amount on line F.3 minus lower and divide by 2.  The higher parent pays the lower parent (half the difference).  This is spelled out in the guidelines.

I hope that helps
~Brian
« Last Edit: February 09, 2019, 03:33:31 PM by BMull »
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RJames

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Re: Calculation Questions
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2019, 03:15:44 PM »
Thank you, that gives me some more things to look into.  I appreciate your time.
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RJames

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Re: Calculation Questions
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2019, 10:46:58 AM »
I've run into all kinds of things that don't make sense.  Can you or some other kind soul look at some worksheets that I've filled out and see where I'm going wrong.  Perhaps via email and out of public eye?  It seems as if the more support I offer, the more it forces me to pay. That or I'm really not understanding something.

Thank you.
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RJames

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Re: Calculation Questions
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2019, 12:53:39 PM »
Basically what I'm coming up with is with the Shared Expense Formula, my child support is significantly higher AND I pay half of all of the direct expenses as compared to the Equal Parenting Time Worksheet adjustment, with it the child support is approximately 50% less AND I don't pay any direct expenses.  This seems completely backwards to me.
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BMull

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Re: Calculation Questions
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2019, 02:52:27 PM »
It sounds like you're doing your own diligence which is awesome!  I wish more folks did that to gut check the numbers.  In the end, remember that you're bound by the guidelines - even if the guidelines don't make sense.

Please pm me and I'll provide my email address.
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